tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1331441403058020963.post1047780787695719977..comments2024-03-28T06:49:24.930-04:00Comments on International Political Economy at the University of North Carolina: Against the Immigration PhariseesThomas Oatleyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14092437150746625670noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1331441403058020963.post-20778172349454016092010-04-28T01:19:03.320-04:002010-04-28T01:19:03.320-04:00http://ipeatunc.blogspot.com/2010/04/even-more-aga...http://ipeatunc.blogspot.com/2010/04/even-more-against-immigration-pharisees.htmlKindred Winecoffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14330671232391851377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1331441403058020963.post-9144628497342362292010-04-28T00:07:33.545-04:002010-04-28T00:07:33.545-04:00true, this "more democrats are torn within th...true, this "more democrats are torn within their hearts" is a hypothesis. however, it seems like a very plausible one to me. i think that the far majority of liberal dems. in cambridge, nyc, l.a., san fran. are truly torn within their hearts (yet are still guilty of a bit of nativism). these are the bleeding-heart liberals. does the term have no meaning? this is a large number, yet still a minority within the dem. party. regardless, i hypothesize that there are more of these individuals in the democratic party than in the republican party and that they make up a larger percentage of the democratic party than the percentage that they comprise in the republican party. if so, then the hypothesis is probably valid and krugman is likely correct. i can see how someone's conservative ideology or hatred of krugman could get in the way of viewing this as a plausible hypothesis.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1331441403058020963.post-32646690629696980432010-04-27T23:28:28.326-04:002010-04-27T23:28:28.326-04:00Anon -
I believe that is a story that liberals te...Anon -<br /><br />I believe that is a story that liberals tell themselves to sweep this issue under the rug. As far as I know, there is no evidence that Democrats are more "torn within their hearts" than Republicans, or that conservatives only want to "exploit" immigrants (by employing at high wages, relative to what they'd earn in their home countries, if you really want to call that exploitation) while liberals are just heartbroken about the whole thing. I call shenanigans and self-delusion.Kindred Winecoffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14330671232391851377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1331441403058020963.post-80696128459210703902010-04-27T20:27:14.736-04:002010-04-27T20:27:14.736-04:00I still think that krugman is on to something. I&#...I still think that krugman is on to something. I'm convinced that there are more people on the political left (and thus many in the democratic party) that are torn within their hearts to want to give to the poor, but with limited resources, are usually willing to give to the poor that are currently in U.S. citizens, which means limiting large scale immigration. Sure, there is a bit of nativism here, and Krugman should have acknowledged it. Almost all citizens of states are a bit native. I think the point is that there probably are more people on the left (and in the democratic party) that are less native and seriously torn, as opposed to those on the right (and in the republican party) that are less torn and instead predominantly comprise individuals who want to only pretty exploit immigrant labor or just don't want lots of immigrants (especially non-WASPS), even if the U.S. was significantly wealthier (or could afford to provide more benefits to lots of immigrants).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com